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Post by brandt on Mar 2, 2012 16:53:06 GMT 10
Many academics have their own approaches, some which are far wilder and not nearly as mild. I thought that you might want to start reading up on the literature (lit review) before we could really get down into a discussion. I have no personal connection to evolutionary psychology. I am only interested in evidence. I suggest that you delve deeper, of course you are not required to do so.
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Post by Smithee on Mar 2, 2012 16:53:36 GMT 10
If I may ask, since we all agree that animals have instincts - but you have earlier offered that Homo sapiens are losing instincts. I have looked for information on this that could be examined. I admit that it has not been an exhaustive search. Could you provide me with the evidence that you have used to make this decision? Not losing. Lost. There are no human instincts.
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Post by Smithee on Mar 2, 2012 17:00:19 GMT 10
I have no personal connection to evolutionary psychology. Define evolutionary psychology as you will. I work from a socio-cognitive approach that is informed by evolutionary theory.
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Post by Smithee on Mar 2, 2012 17:05:07 GMT 10
I suggest that you delve deeper, of course you are not required to do so. We have delved since 2010. Result zilch.
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Post by Tamrin on Mar 2, 2012 19:41:20 GMT 10
I have no personal connection to evolutionary psychology. What is it you are studying at W.S. University?
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Post by Tamrin on Mar 2, 2012 20:49:32 GMT 10
If I may ask, since we all agree that animals have instincts - but you have earlier offered that Homo sapiens are losing instincts. I have looked for information on this that could be examined. I admit that it has not been an exhaustive search. Could you provide me with the evidence that you have used to make this decision? Not losing. Lost. There are no human instincts.Quite so. This is bordering on misrepresentation. We have been over and over this ad nauseam. Postulates of human instincts (Phrenology, Eugenics, Social Darwinism, Biological Determinism and Sociobiology) have all been falsified and discredited (see Gould's The Mismeasure of Man). What remains is the null hypothesis. I cannot prove a negative. Could you provide me with the evidence you have used in asserting humans have instincts?
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Post by Tamrin on Mar 2, 2012 20:51:35 GMT 10
I am only interested in evidence. Do you have any?
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Post by Tamrin on Mar 3, 2012 11:10:07 GMT 10
If I may ask, since we all agree that animals have instincts - but you have earlier offered that Homo sapiens are losing instincts. I have looked for information on this that could be examined. I admit that it has not been an exhaustive search. Could you provide me with the evidence that you have used to make this decision? Not losing. Lost. There are no human instincts. Quite so. This is bordering on misrepresentation. We have been over and over this ad nauseam...For example: I do have a question for you. You have mentioned a few times that we are losing instincts. This of course requires that we had instincts. What evidence do you have, or have come across, that supports this thesis? The burden of proof being on the party that makes the claim. This is more of an inference from the prevailing null hypothesis of human instincts: If, as is the prevailing scientific opinion, we have no instincts now (apart from primitive reflexes) and our closest non-human, evolutionary cousins still exhibit a few instincts, presumably our common ancestor had instincts (evidence of which would does not survive in the fossil record).
I speculate that more or less fixed behaviours may become a liability in a diverse and changing environment once the capacity to rely on social learning had been acquired (and we agree that social learning is significant). Thus, I do not necessarily claim that humans had and then lost instincts (they may have been lost on our evolutionary line before we become Homo sapiens), only that we do not have them now. That negative proposition is easily falsified by validly demonstrating instincts operating in humans.
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Post by brandt on Mar 3, 2012 15:01:11 GMT 10
If I may ask, since we all agree that animals have instincts - but you have earlier offered that Homo sapiens are losing instincts. I have looked for information on this that could be examined. I admit that it has not been an exhaustive search. Could you provide me with the evidence that you have used to make this decision? Not losing. Lost. There are no human instincts. None whatsoever? None at all? Just a blank slate that is perfectly empty? Seriously?
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Post by brandt on Mar 3, 2012 15:03:15 GMT 10
I suggest that you delve deeper, of course you are not required to do so. We have delved since 2010. Result zilch. I have delved in my personal and professional life. What have you contributed? I am aware that you have a life beyond this forum. So do I. Mine happens to relate to this topic. Does your life relate to this topic, I mean does your life your life relate to this topic beyond peanut gallery heckeling?
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