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Post by Tamrin on Nov 30, 2010 6:09:51 GMT 10
"Obama was arguing a straightforward Marxist-Leninist class-struggle point of view, which anticipated that there would be a revolution of the working class, led by revolutionaries, who would overthrow the capitalist system and institute a new socialist government that would redistribute the wealth." This is said as if it were a bad thing!? Remember, these were his college years. As French PM Georges Clemenceau said, " My son is 22 years old. If he had not become a Communist at 22, I would have disowned him. If he is still a Communist at 30, I will do it then." Similarly, he had also said, " A young man who isn't a socialist hasn't got a heart; an old man who is a socialist hasn't got a head." Even your President Johnson said, " No member of our generation who wasn't a Communist or a dropout in the thirties is worth a damn."
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Post by Tamrin on Nov 30, 2010 6:21:42 GMT 10
I bet he's a Muslim as well This does seem like the latest redoubt of the "Birther's Movement."
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Post by Tamrin on Nov 30, 2010 6:37:02 GMT 10
His current fiscal policies show a contempt for free market capitalism and business in general I suggest the free market capitalists had shown their contempt for the system and had brought it to its knees. Australia has gone even further than the US in implementing the Keynesian policies for which Obama is being criticized and we have come out of the GFC pretty well, for now.
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Post by Tamrin on Nov 30, 2010 6:45:46 GMT 10
When even the communist Chinese tell you to lay off the deficit spending, something's definitely wrong. Well, it is their money
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Post by maximus on Nov 30, 2010 16:54:19 GMT 10
"Obama was arguing a straightforward Marxist-Leninist class-struggle point of view, which anticipated that there would be a revolution of the working class, led by revolutionaries, who would overthrow the capitalist system and institute a new socialist government that would redistribute the wealth." This is said as if it were a bad thing!? Remember, these were his college years. As French PM Georges Clemenceau said, " My son is 22 years old. If he had not become a Communist at 22, I would have disowned him. If he is still a Communist at 30, I will do it then." Similarly, he had also said, " A young man who isn't a socialist hasn't got a heart; an old man who is a socialist hasn't got a head." Even your President Johnson said, " No member of our generation who wasn't a Communist or a dropout in the thirties is worth a damn." I would expect such sentiments from a French guy. As to Johnson, he saddled us with a massive expansion of the welfare state, which contributed directly to the breakdown of Black families in this country.
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Post by maximus on Nov 30, 2010 17:04:05 GMT 10
His current fiscal policies show a contempt for free market capitalism and business in general I suggest the free market capitalists had shown their contempt for the system and had brought it to its knees. Australia has gone even further than the US in implementing the Keynesian policies for which Obama is being criticized and we have come out of the GFC pretty well, for now. No, it was not free market capitalists who did so, but a relatively small cadre of financiers who, through the revolving door of government appointee to corporate lobbyist, arranged fiscal policy to favor their particular enterprise. This is a case of government regulation of the market being manipulated by unscrupulous individuals in collusion with government bureaucrats. Heavily involved also is the Federal Reserve. Did you know that the Fed purchases bonds through the Federal Reserve Bank of New York? One would think that they purchase them directly from the Treasury, right? Wrong. The head of the NY branch purchases them from Goldman-Sachs. Guess who used to be a partner in Goldman-Sachs? Right - the Head of the New York Fed. See anything wrong with this picture?
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Post by maximus on Nov 30, 2010 17:06:34 GMT 10
When even the communist Chinese tell you to lay off the deficit spending, something's definitely wrong. Well, it is their money The problem is that the bonds purchased are fiat money, created out of thin air by the Federal Reserve. This mortgages the future of our children and grandchildren, saddling them with debt from the minute they are born.
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Post by maximus on Nov 30, 2010 17:11:06 GMT 10
I bet he's a Muslim as well This does seem like the latest redoubt of the "Birther's Movement." No, just a bit of background information that most have not even looked at. The "Birthers," so-called, simply asked to see the man's birth certificate. What was the problem in publishing a certified copy? I would have had no problem doing so. As an aside: why are Barack and Michelle's college dissertations sealed? Why the mystery - particularly from an individual who campaigned on openness and transparency?
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Post by Tamrin on Nov 30, 2010 19:27:43 GMT 10
No, just a bit of background information that most have not even looked at. The "Birthers," so-called, simply asked to see the man's birth certificate. What was the problem in publishing a certified copy? I would have had no problem doing so. As an aside: why are Barack and Michelle's college dissertations sealed? Why the mystery - particularly from an individual who campaigned on openness and transparency? No one believes this nonsense except a few neo-con nutjobs.
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Post by Tamrin on Nov 30, 2010 19:43:22 GMT 10
The problem is that the bonds purchased are fiat money, created out of thin air by the Federal Reserve. This mortgages the future of our children and grandchildren, saddling them with debt from the minute they are born. Without some Keynesian pump-priming the economy would have collapsed and our children and grandchildren (and great-grandchildren) would have been in an even bigger financial hole.
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