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Post by maximus on Jun 3, 2012 11:30:35 GMT 10
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Post by Smithee on Jun 3, 2012 13:04:55 GMT 10
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Post by Tamrin on Jun 3, 2012 18:31:21 GMT 10
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Post by maximus on Jun 4, 2012 6:03:35 GMT 10
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Post by Smithee on Jun 13, 2012 20:20:23 GMT 10
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Post by maximus on Jun 14, 2012 6:10:26 GMT 10
Absolute hogwash. Nothing prevents one from acting in co-operation with others. Mutual trade to mutual benefit, or helping those less fortunate and in need are not proscribed. What the Libertarian viewpoint does restrict, is the extent a government can interfere with the rights of individuals. As long as an individual is not infringing on the rights of another, government should not restrict that activity. I don't understand why Aussies, and, apparently, eggheaded intellectuals, can't grasp these simple principals! Oh, how we have fallen from the Enlightenment!
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Post by Tamrin on Jun 14, 2012 7:13:15 GMT 10
I don't understand why Aussies, and, apparently, eggheaded intellectuals, can't grasp these simple principals!
Oh, how we have fallen from the Enlightenment! I guess for the same reason we can't grasp the simplistic principles of Objectivism and Evolutionary Psychology. It is because anti-intellectualism hasn't taken quite as stong a hold here as in the US. While the US selected some Enlightenment values and took them in one direction, emphasising man as an individual entity, in Europe the entire compass of Enlightenment philosophy led away from feudalism in another direction, emphasising man as both an individual entity AND as a social entity, arguably becoming expressed through progressive Socialist policies, with Marx advancing neo-Enlightenment ideals (flawed by a fixed and overly optimist view of Human Nature). For example, please consider Hobbes..., Rousseau and Hegel.
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Post by maximus on Jun 14, 2012 11:48:36 GMT 10
I don't understand why Aussies, and, apparently, eggheaded intellectuals, can't grasp these simple principals!
Oh, how we have fallen from the Enlightenment! I guess for the same reason we can't grasp the simplistic principles of Objectivism and Evolutionary Psychology. It is because anti-intellectualism hasn't taken quite as stong a hold here as in the US. While the US selected some Enlightenment values and took them in one direction, emphasising man as an individual entity, in Europe the entire compass of Enlightenment philosophy led away from feudalism in another direction, emphasising man as both an individual entity AND as a social entity, arguably becoming expressed through progressive Socialist policies, with Marx advancing neo-Enlightenment ideals (flawed by a fixed and overly optimist view of Human Nature). For example, please consider Hobbes..., Rousseau and Hegel. Libertarianism and Objectivism are two entirely different animals. One is a system of political principles, the other a philosophical system. To equate them is a False Premise.
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Post by Tamrin on Jun 14, 2012 12:48:20 GMT 10
Are you saying Libertarianism has no philosophical basis? If so why raise the philosophical Enlightenment?
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Post by Smithee on Jun 14, 2012 14:35:21 GMT 10
I guess for the same reason we can't grasp the simplistic principles of Objectivism and Evolutionary Psychology. It is because anti-intellectualism hasn't taken quite as stong a hold here as in the US. Interesting that you make that connection. The Encyclopedia of Libertarianism From www.uk.sagepub.com/books/Book232698Although others depict Objectivism as being at odds with Evolutionary Psychology. Rand vs. Evolutionary Psychology See econlog.econlib.org/archives/2010/01/rand_vs_evoluti.html
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